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Will Tastykakes be Ground Zero for Michael Vick Boycott?

image  As a small business owner you struggle and toil to build up your business.  Growing trust and customer relationships and trying to reach a critical mass of both success and from a marketing perspective, perceived success are vital to your future.  So it is understandable that when you take a big financial gamble and invest a large sum of money to sponsor an NFL team like the Philadelphia Eagles.  If you are a company like TastyKakes, you are really hoping to capitalize on the goodwill of the team, its great players like Donovan McNabb and maybe even the prestige that is associated with the NFL.   

What you do NOT expect is to be blind sided by having your marketing dollars go towards funding part of Michael Vick, infamous bare handed dog killer, and his new 2 year $6.8 million deal while he’s fresh out of prison and still on parole!

imageUnless you are in the business of selling knock off Jerseys, no small business owner in their right mind would want to be within a million miles of Michael Vick.

Tastykakes are no fly by not operation that is looking to make a quick buck on a marketing campaign either.  They have been around for almost 100 years in the Philadelphia history and have a lot of past success with other American past times such as sponsoring the Phillies and the Philadelphia Flyers in the NHL.

Even Janet Evanovich has helped ad to their fame and mystique by featuring their products in almost every Stephanie Plum novel written.  Stephanie Plum is a female bounty hunter with a hamster named Rex and an inherited dog named Bob.

So what do you do when your local team that you recently started sponsoring hires the NFLs most infamous and unliked player straight out of prison?

image Tastykake has invested a lot of time and marketing and planning in their Eagles campaign.  Everything from graphic design work to gift tins for their products.  They sponsor a number of charitable organizations, and in general seem like a good company (healthiness of their products aside).  Now despite their modest history, they have grown into a sizable business grossing over $250 million per year, which explains their financial ability to back the Eagles in addition to other local sports teams.

But that money hasn’t necessarily prepared them for other modern challenges in marketing, such as establishing social media profiles, updating their website or keeping things running smoothly with a tight communications plan.  Typically, they shouldn’t need to, they sell snack foods!

But now those $250 million in Tastykake snack food sales are helping to line the pockets of a guy with a 6 year history of running illegal gambling operations who tortured dogs and fought them to the death.

So if you are the Tasty Baking Company making Tastykakes and the Eagles blind side you with this bad press snafu, what do you do?  Do you back the Eagles and hope that the king of dog fighters working in a city with a troubled history of dog fighting, might not rub off on your brand?  Do you hope against hope that your product does not become the emblem of a boycott like disco records burned at ball fields in the late 70’s & early 80’s?

Do you take action and get in front of the negative public reaction, remove your sponsorship from the Eagles and possibly win some good PR for being the first company to drop the Eagles and Michael Vick like the bad will magnet that he is? 

The AP broke a story indicating that all the Philadelphia sponsors are currently sticking with Michael Vick and the Eagles.  Most of those very large billion dollar a year generating companies can afford to hedge their bets a little bit, but Tastykake is based in the heart of Philadelphia, they even sponsored the Eagles’ blog.

But that sponsorship disappeared yesterday (not all sponsorships, just the mention on the blog).  Some Michael Vick protesters have sent us accounts of their discussions with Tastykake employees, who were extremely troubled by the Eagles hiring of Michael Vick.  They indeed felt blind sided, but their reaction seems to initially be coming out right at the same time that the larger press would have us believe that the world doesn’t care about Michael Vick, that fans don’t care what Michael Vick has done, and that sponsors are still willing to pay Michael Vick and his team money.

I don’t know where this is going yet, but I do know this.  We’ve been working on this effort for over 2 years here at Sackvick.net.  We are growing in scope and organization.  While Michael Vick was in prison many parts of our efforts were dormant, but the community has been rudely re-awakened by his rapid reinstatement back into the NFL with almost no review of his actions.  Michael Vick has literally done almost nothing to fix the problems he created with his 6 year dog fighting operation.  Yet the NFL and now the Eagles are very quick to give him a pass and try to make a buck. 

We have no quarrel with their financial goals, but as fans of the NFL we surely do not need to support an organization that so crudely slaps us in the face by hiring Michael Vick and that extends also to companies that would sponsor the Philadelphia Eagles so that they can pay Michael Vick $1.6 million this year and $5.2 million next year.  That’s just ludicrous.

As a small business owner myself, I hope that the Tasty Baking Company ultimately makes the right choice.  They are a company built on a 100 years of goodwill, it doesn’t make business sense for them to spend money on the Eagles only to shovel their goodwill into a whole to cover up the crimes that Michael Vick has committed.  Michael Vick is a goodwill money pit.  A lot of sponsors got burned to the tune of $130 – $250 million gambling on Michael Vick, and all he had to do was stay out of trouble.  He knew better, he had won the golden ticket, the lottery and much more, but even knowing that he couldn’t stop himself from killing and torturing dogs for fun. 

Throwing good money after a bad apple that makes decisions that poorly is crazy.

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46 Responses to “Will Tastykakes be Ground Zero for Michael Vick Boycott?”

  • Fabbit:

    ROFL!!! A week later you are STILL looking for the FIRST sponsor to bail out.

    It’s not going to happen.

    Get a life, retarded Vick haters!!!

    LOLOL!!!!!1!!!!

    • As you said, its only the first week. It took the sponsors a couple months to finally pull the plug on Michael Vick in 2007.

      But we have a secret weapon on our side that will ultimately probably be the deciding force in helping advertisers and companies realize that Michael Vick is bad for business.

      What’s the secret weapon? What could possibly make companies like the Tasty Baking Company, Miller, Coors Lite, Pepsi, Nike etc wake up and drop Michael Vick?

      The answer: Michael Vick! :)

      • Rich:

        hahaha
        I just had to stop by and see for myself what the leader of the housewives was up to.

        FYI
        Today is the fourth consecutive day that there have been no protesters at the NovaCare Complex. hahaha.
        You are now lining up the cookie bakers to email corporations to stop their sponsorship? hahaha. So a corporation, if public as most involved are, whose sole responsibility is to make their shareholders money, is going to forgoe profits to make a stand against another human getting a second chance? hahahahahaha. If they did choose altruism over profit they would be run out the door at the next stockholders meeting. THAT IS THE SECRET WEAPON, your little group of radicals can threaten their livliehood but it is only by acquiesing to your threats that their livliehood is threatned at all.
        hahahaha.

        • The corporations that sponsor Michael Vick through the Eagles have to weigh the risks of eroding sales from the public perceptions associated with Michael Vick’s actions, crimes, organized gambling network and more. Having a finance background myself, I’m well versed in the way that their decision making process will play out.

          We are simply one of many of their stakeholders. They will not likely base their decision entirely on our feedback, but we will be heard and their brands will be seen with Michael Vick if they continue to sponsor him.

          • Rich:

            Just so I am clear, you are not a stockholder and you do not even live in the area that has tastykakes, the same could be said for 90% of your army. SO you cannot affect their bottom line at all and do not have a voice to their board. hmmm. good luck holding your breath.

          • Just so I am clear, I never said I was a ‘stockholder’ but I am a ‘stakeholder’.

            Stakeholder Def. ~ a person, group, organization, or system who affects or can be affected by an organization’s actions ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stakeholder

            I am most definitely a stakeholder in this situation. The people active in this cause whether through this website or other groups are also most definitely stakeholders, just as you are also a stakeholder.

            We also definitely can have an impact on the bottom line of both the Philadelphia Eagles, the NFL and their sponsors and also on Michael Vick (I’d refer you to his loss of sponsors during our previous campaign as an example).

            :)

          • Rich:

            Not sure why you are giving me the definition of stakeholder. I know the difference between someone having a stake in the issue and being a stokholder of the company. You wrote you were a stakholder, i wrote that you were not a stockholder, or more specifically that you were not a person who the board would answer to.

          • lol so we agree, I’m a stakeholder and not a stockholder (never said I was a stockholer, which we also seem to agree on).

            I sure wish we had some topic that we could debate, but unfortunately all we can seem to do is agree. :)

          • Rich:

            I guess if I hang around long enough we are bound to agree on something. haha.

            The ASPCA has to work with Vick. I see where you guys are coming from and you guys have to attack this at your angle but they HAVE to work with him.

            Is that a good starting point?

          • Well, they have explicitly stated that they WILL NOT work with Michael Vick. They were essentially the cops/investigators called in to run the forensic analysis on his crimes. They were so disgusted with what he did that they refused to work with him when his agent called them looking for a foot in the door.

            see
            http://www.sackvick.net/2009/08/21/aspca-reasons-for-not-partnering-with-michael-vick/

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ed-sayres/the-road-ahead-for-michae_b_264071.html

            So that just is not going to happen.

  • Ga dog_lover:

    I have written them all

  • Dave:

    When will Mike Vick make his tour to apologize for stealing the dogs of regular people. Shouldn’t he say sorry for taking their family member and having it ripped to shreds.

    It would show true remorse if he made that move. It has to be hundreds of dogs stolen. Also since he is an addict and going through rehab that should be part of it. Don’t you have to apologize to people you have hurt. If he doesn’t then he really doesn’t want to be sober.

  • eli:

    how about an advestisment campaign on dogfighting. lets show pictures of raveged dogs and force people, including sponsers of the eagles, to see what a dogfight really does to other living things. as long as no one sees it, it will stay under the rug.lets show the children what mike vick is all about. i know of a celebrity who is on board. if any one is interested, please let me know through this blog.

  • I just sent an email to Chad Ramsey, Vice President, Financial Planning and Investor Relations at Tasty Baking Company. This is what I said in my email:

    “I personally eat a lot of junk food. Cake is my favorite. Really.

    Per http://www.sackvick.net, you are looking at what you’re getting for your current sponsorships as they relate to dogfighting and felony animal abuse through supporting a certain NFL team and/or player.

    Please do not continue to sponsor any activity, blog, advertising, etc. related to the Philadelphia Eagles and/or Michael Vick. As just one very loud voice among many, a boycott of your products will impact your investors, therefore your company, your employees, and the community in general.

    Thank you for your consideration. This is a serious matter to many, many folks, not just those that live in your immediate area.

    Robin Richter”

    his email address is: ‘[email protected]

    • Lisa H:

      Thank you, Robin!!! Just sent Mr. Ramsey a letter, and posted Mr. Ramsey’s email addy on my Group’s page (> 200 members):

      Here’s mine

      Dear Mr. Ramsey:

      To write that we don’t routinely enjoy Tasty Kake products would be insincere.

      However, we’ve decided to forego our tasty treat, up and until Tasty Kakes asserts a stand and demonstrates to its loyal consumer base that integrity and principle matter.

      Understanding your position in having been blind-sided by the Eagles in signing Mr. Vick, continued corporate support nonetheless condones this abhorrent decision of the Philadelphia Eagles. It’s not only a smack in their fan base’s face, but to Tasty Kakes, too. We have a unique opportunity for sponsors to push against those who sanction and celebratise abject criminality for a ticket sale. Ethical standards should be the norm, and egregious decisions must no longer continue to taint the reputation of sponsors. Detractors of the most basic of professional ethics must be mindful of consequences.

      This note is from one person voicing the concern of thousands. I respectfully urge Tasty Kakes to take a stand for the greater good, with corporate head held high and rescind your sponsorship of the Philadelphia Eagles.

      Our movement is in its beginning phase, but we are growing in numbers and discontent by the day.

      Most respectfully,

      Lisa H.
      Home address provided

      • Casey:

        Thank you, I’ve been trying to find an email for someone at Tastycakes, I love their butterscotch krimpets and hope to be able to enjoy them again when they no longer support the Eagles

    • Rich:

      I just emailed Ramsey and thanked him for supporting an entity that believes in giving other humans who have paid their debt to society a second chance. You have been cancelled out.

      • Hey Rich, I applaud you for standing up for what you believe in. :) It does not cancel others out.

        There are two real and slightly conflicting issues at play in this situation.

        The first is the concept that it is not a good thing to let an evil person influence people, especially kids.

        The other is that giving a person a second chance is very important.

        The second chance issue is highly compounded and very important in a country where we lock up millions of African American men in disproportionate numbers to other races. Those men once they get out of prison do need to find ways to move back into society or else shunning them will only drive them either ‘to’ or ‘back to’ crime.

        Personally, I see this situation as one where the person that committed the crime and did so in a systematic process that evolved and grew more and more wrong over a period of 6 years (as an adult). I see this as a situation where this person happened to be African American.

        Giving Michael Vick a second chance could be embraced by African Americans as an opportunity to give a very public face to the severe disparity in prison populations, sentencing of similar crimes, and many other issues. If that is how this plays out, in a greater sense I will not be upset if all of Michael Vick’s evil is flipped to root out the evil in our prison and sentencing system today.

        That said, I think there are likely to be far more deserving people that could become that emblem, people that are not as evil as Michael Vick, whom had everything go his way, but still chose a life of crime and evil as opposed to so many people that do not have those opportunities and are often times pushed or forced into a life of crime.

        I do not see Michael Vick as a victim, but I do recognize that there are millions of victims that do need a second chance.

        So I do applaud your actions to fight for this cause, I’d like to see more happen in this area as well, but I do not think that Michael Vick makes a good poster child for second chances. I think less guilty people, people that did not squander their opportunities or never had an opportunity in the first place would make a much stronger foundation to fight this battle and win this cause.

        Regardless, even though we seem to disagree over Michael Vick and other violent felons in the NFL, I do wish you the best of luck. If you do start to put your money and your efforts where your voice is, and build a website or a social network to push this cause further, I will be glad to help.

        I suspect that many if not most of the people here would also be glad to help. This site was started due to the injustice that was transpiring in the early days of this scandal. We are extremely empathetic to fighting for many causes to uproot injustice, so if you find a good channel for your energies, I think you will find common cause with many of us and many others as well.

        • Rich:

          Look at you with the olive branch.
          Nice retort.
          fartying around aside
          I do not like what Vick did for a second. I think he deserved to be locked up, deserved to lose his contract, and deserved to pay through the nose his legal fees. The only place where we disagree is that I think he has paid the price.
          I understand that watching the guy you see as the poster boy for animal cruelty, (and righfully so), get handed millions of dollars is hard to swallow. In a perfect world maybe he loses the ability to sign a contract like that but in the world we live in he has a right to work and his skillset is such that only about 20 other guys can do what he does. In that situation he gets millions.
          I believe Jeff Lurie when he spoke and said basically that Mike keeping his nose clean is not enough, if he is not an agent for change he is out. I like that in Jeff Lurie, he has said from day one that the football team can and should be agents for change.
          I am not condoning or making any excuses for Vick. I want to see him erradicate dog fighting with Jeff Lurie’s help, will it make up for what he has done? who knows but the heart of this issue is stopping future dog fighters before they start, that is only something Vick and Lurie can do, because frankly Vick has more juice in the hood than anyone on here, myself included.

          • I would disagree that he has more juice under the hood and that is where we definitely do disagree.

            There are some crimes and acts that do not warrant the person that committed the crime to become the poster child for reform.

            There are many examples. Comparing the crimes, Michael Vick’s crimes are not the worst, but like the following crimes, Michael Vick as the guilty party is at the top of the totem pole.

            The following people should not be allowed to become the poster child for reforms for the crimes they have committed:

            Charles Manson should not be allowed to lead the reform against cults and murder.

            Hitler (if alive) should not be allowed to drive the reform against antisemitism.

            Nathan Bedford Forest (if alive) should not be allowed to drive the reform against bigotry and racism.

            Dick Cheney should not be allowed to drive the reform against abuses of power in the Oval Office.

            Michael Vick should not be allowed to drive the reform against dog fighting.

            Michael Vick is not as bad as the people listed above, but like each of them he shares the terrible distinction of being one of the most notorious people to have committed the crime in question.

            There is no law against the worst criminal becoming poster child for reform. We are not calling for one, but anyone that calls for the worst criminal to become the voice for reform just because they have the money and juice to do it, is a fool. (Olive branch still extended because I do not think you are a fool).

          • Rich:

            I am not sure you are reading my posts correctly. I said that YOU see Vick as the poster boy for animal cruelty. That is not a good thing.
            As for the other names you threw out there, they have nothing to do with this particular issue, there are not any parallels so there is no need to bring them into it.

          • I DO see Michael Vick as the poster child for animal cruelty.

            He spent hundreds of millions of dollars to make himself the poster child for animal cruelty. If you choose to see him differently, no big deal, that’s your choice, but most people in America DO also see him as the poster child for animal cruelty as well. Our numbers and voice (combined with the millions of dollars that Michael Vick spent to make it a reality) seem to out weigh your own at this snap shot in time. Maybe the NFL/Eagles/Vick can buy their way out of this in public opinion over time, but right now, he’s king of a very ugly hill.

            In expending all of his power, money and influence to become the most notorious practitioner of animal cruelty he got a seat (albeit a junior seat) at the table with many other extremely notorious criminals such as the crazy evil people I listed.

            Way to go Michael Vick, you are right up there with the founder of the KKK, the Nazis and Charles Manson. Just think of all the good things that you could have done with your money and influence during those six years. That type of constant choice to do the [edit-correction 'right' replaced] wrong thing, doesn’t prove that Michael Vick is stupid, it proves that he is terrible.

            His choice, not mine.

          • Rich:

            Never mind, you are not seeing my point.

    • sherrie:

      TastyCake’s Mr Ramsey just got a letter from my family members & me. thanks for address, Robin- as usual, your posts are supportive & helpful. Unfortunately, I too am fond of cake.

  • scenestealer:

    Well, Rabbit-Schmabbit, whatever your name is, who exactly is retarded is evident.

    I am seeing a growing movement as the Eagles powers-that-be keep pumping the nice=talk machine while some fans are still feeling queasy that MV has been hired.

    I would not be surprised if there is pressure from sponsors going on behind the scenes.

    Time will tell.

  • I agree with you that the Eagle organization has created a dilema for business here. The Eagles are not Phila but an important major NFL team. This city is very historic and in fact was the first in the nation to establish an SPCA. As long as I am here I will continue to boycott and work for the removable of Vick from here. Would that couch Reid manage the Eagles as well as our world champion Phillies are managed.

    He and MV both need to go in order that we may, at last, begin to build a championship team.

    One way to keep him in the news and remembered are bumperstickers although clearly not the only was. Mine says “abuse an animal and go to jail.” Who does that remind us of. Cheers

    • Rich:

      ###Would that couch Reid manage the Eagles as well as our world champion Phillies are managed.

      That would be the same Phillies who have a guy who bashed his wife’s face in last year on a street in boston? The same team whose current chariman and former managing partner (Bill Giles), first tried to cover it up and then made a snarky comment that she deserved it?
      You guys are great. hate people/love dog.
      You do not think Pedro Felix or Pedro Martinez has been to cok fights? Or do chicken not count because they do not have the personality of dogs and they taste better?

  • mb.:

    Our family has already started pulling the plug on Vick-supporting businesses. Snapple & Pepsi (which includes GatorAde) products are off our grocery list, we are in the process of changing our insurance away from Geico after 20+ years with the company (& more than a decade since we have had so much as a speeding ticket, so we were kind of like free-money for them), etc.

    Finally when we were out last week at a local bar, we asked that the tv-station be changed away from the Eagles game & they were happy to oblige (for the record this was a bar in Gainesville Florida-the town that football & GatorAde built; if the locals here would rather not look at Michael Vick it is hard to imagine who would).

    Even if these corporate sponsors do not rethink their decision or manage to pass off any loss of market share as the economy, I do not want these products to be part of my life. Period.

    • Nancy:

      Good for you, MB! I agree with you that even if a boycott doesn’t change the sponsors’ minds, I will feel better knowing I am not supporting companies which care so little about anything but the bottom line, just like the Eagles
      A social group I belong to had a meeting planned in Philadelphia but will move the site to another city and let Philly tourism groups such as gophila.com know why

  • LoveDogs:

    I wrote all the sponsors before the list was pulled and I got a nice letter from Budweiser. All the others wrote a form letter that was disappointing so I wrote them one last time and told them I don’t need their products. I’m only one person but if more people would follow through, maybe things would change.
    Let’s keep the pictures of those poor animals front and center. People have short memories.

    • Pamela:

      I own Slinky’s Tavern in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, the closest bar to LSU’s Tiger Stadium. I also sit on the local pitbull rescue charity board. I’m discontinuing all Bud product drink specials until they either yank support from the Eagles or until he’s gone. I cannot stand to contribute to his salary. LSU’s major SEC home games this year are Vanderbilt, Florida, Auburn and Ole Miss. We also host ULL and Tulane (two HUGE drinking towns in this state, which says a lot). We’ll all be enjoying lots of Coors Light specials and price breaks.

      Please encourage your local bar and restaurant owners to chime in. Bud does listen to their vendors.

      Pamela

      • Lisa H:

        Yay, Pamela!! And THAT’S where impact will be determined.

        Actually, to DogLover332
        Pamela’s post is inspirational for much more……Should we begin, in a most respectful way, of course, to target the source vendors rather than the corporations themselves? Grocery stores purchase Tasty Kakes and Turkey Hill products, lounges purchase beer, sporting groups provide Gatorade, etc. – petitioning THOSE entities and having them pull away from ‘big guys’ would yield tremendous results.

      • Rich:

        Hey Pamela, Coors and Miller also have deals with the NFL. So are you not going to to sell those either? If you people had brains you would be dangerous.
        So what is it going to be Pam? You going to cop out or are you going to sell your bar in nowhereville?

        I am betting you back up pretty quickly.

        • Pamela:

          Rich,

          Miller and Bud have deals specifically with the Eagles. Coors has assured me they don’t. If they lied, please let me know. Out of the entire NFL, only one team took him on, so I’m focusing on their sponsors. Since my little bar has an import and microbrew selection of over 150 beers, and I’ve been in business over 10 years, I’ll weather taking a stand on principle. For the record, while Baton Rouge isn’t the metropolis that Philly is, we are the state capitol, home of the flagship university, the refuge of job having Katrina evacuees (Houston unfortunately got the dregs) and holder of two football National Championships and six baseball National Championships. On home SEC weekends, LSU’s campus population swells to about 350,000. It’s not Christmas at the Vatican, but enough for me to make my point. Tiger Stadium holds more people than the Superdome. If you reread my post more carefully, you’ll see that I didn’t say I was throwing Bud out of the bar, but that I wasn’t going to give them the game day price feature they’d enjoyed in years past. Since I do spend most of my free time and a LOT of my money working with rescue dogs, I’m not going to put myself out of business. Rather, for those that insist on drinking Eagles sponsored products, I’ll just raise the prices and dedicate the extra funds to my rescue efforts. Not that it matters, but my “brains” were good enough to get me into Mensa.

          Sincerely,
          Pamela

          • Kim:

            Actually, I’m sorry to say that Coors is one of the many beers in the Miller family:
            http://www.millercoors.com/our-beers/great-beer.aspx

            Still, Pamela I think what you’re doing at your bar is great! Not selling specific beers at all would be suicide, but providing incentives for non-sponsor beers hurts the sponsors, helps the little guys and doesn’t anger your customers – brilliant! It also gives you a chance to tell your point of view and maybe even recruit a few more boycotters.

            The list of products these companies own is scary and makes it hard (but not impossible) to replace our favorites with non-sponsor products.
            Here’s a link to an alphabetical list of all the products owned by Pepsico, Anheuser-Busch and Miller (according to their own websites):
            http://www.whitehall-michigan-pet-sitting.com/support-files/sponsorlistpdf.pdf

            Rich, I agree that it’s great you’re taking a stand for something – even if I disagree with you. However, your letter only cancels out one of ours if you also buy enough to replace the money we’re not spending – :)

  • Pamela:

    P.S. If you change your mind, come on down to nowhereville for a game. I’ll buy ya a bowl of hot gumbo and an ice cold Coors light and you can watch us get our butts kicked by Florida. :-)

    • Rich:

      That sounds like a plan but I can not afford your inflated Bud prices. haha.
      As for Coor’s, though, they have a national advertising deal with the NFL, but they sell Coor’s at the games right next to the Bud and Miller.

      As you can probably tell i do not think you guys will make any difference if I were in your shoes I would go after the city of Phila. politicians will always be the first to cave.

      BTW I mentioned this earlier ZERO protesters outside NovaCare center for the last four days, the local protests have gone limp.
      either way, good luck.

      PS I checked Mensa’s website, there are not any members from the south at all, stop pulling my leg.

  • Rick:

    You guys are a bunch of losers..let you dumbasses throw the first stone..I will be wearing my Vick jersey PROUDLY.

  • Rick:

    Vick is back to stay. GET over yourselves.

  • Rick:

    The sponsors are NOT leaving the Eagles..why don’t you guys do something more productive with your time.

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