Michael Vick has a history of using the money he makes to commit crimes that hurt people. (3 business partners in jail, dog fighting partner in NC murdered, + new rumors of steroid dealer in Texas murdered also).

We’ve said on this site many times that we would happily see Michael Vick do anything else but continue to play in the NFL where he received millions of dollars to then run an illegal dog fighting ring which led to the harm against the people above plus the harm done to the dogs themselves.

We didn’t expect Michael Vick to make a TV show about killing dogs after getting out of jail. Have to admit I didn’t see that one coming. I didn’t expect he would go on TV and reminisce about killing dogs himself, talk about smelling the blood of the dogs in his own old dog fighting ring on TV, and quite a bit more. Didn’t expect him to leverage grade school kids to rebuild his reputation, not by helping them but by hamming for the cameras to ‘show’ that he is helping.

He’s no samaritan, just using kids.

In regards to comments, I do not screen any comments here with one big exception:

I screen comments for anyone that promotes, preaches, incites violence against anyone.

That includes people leaving comments here talking against each other. It includes anyone promoting violence against Michael Vick or other dog killers and criminals.

I also don’t allow any racist comments against any race.

Unfortunately over the last three years there have been a lot of these comments coming from ALL sides, last I checked the spam comment count was around 55k.

More than happy to have a discussion about the situation and how to heal it but there’s no place for more violence or hate.

So that’s how it works basically.

Personally, I think Michael Vick has a severe psychological issue and I doubt that he can be cured. I do think his problems can be managed, but he’s essentially putting himself back on a path to attract the wrong type of attention, money and sycophants so he’s probably going to become a repeat offender. That’s my opinion, I hope I’m proved wrong because I do not want to see Michael Vick’s collateral damage increase or expand from animals to an even larger number of people.

All people have the capacity to do very evil and destructive things. This has been documented too many times over (ex. book Ordinary Men a book on a Police force in Poland that committed some of the worst atrocities in WWII, or look closer to home and consider the crimes committed by our own troops and contractors in prisons in Iraq).

Humans have the capacity to do these things, unless our fellow humans are active to thwart it. This need not escalate to the point where law enforcement has to intercede seconds before a crime is committed, we have the power to take very small actions long before hand to prevent them.

Removing Michael Vick and other violent felons from the NFL would definitely be one of those steps.

Another is to actively engage any advertiser that wants to fuel the fire with money whether it be on the Michael Vick Project (a show about a dog killer and felon) or working to show Philadelphia Eagle advertisers that supporting the Eagles who are paying Michael Vick will not be a good thing for their own bottom line (nor for other NFL team sponsors if Michael Vick is sold off).

sorry, I don’t play that god game Dave, and the shirts don’t belong to this site, created by people all over the country, and just listed here. Glad you stopped by, even though you still think acts of evil deserve a repeat opportunity.

Hopefully, someday you will come across a little more wisdom without having to earn it the hard way. Some of us can learn through studying history and some of us have to experience history’s nasty repeats before the lessons sink in.

Its the rare person that gains that wisdom and allows history to victimize them again.

Vick hasn’t learned it, otherwise he wouldn’t have chosen to go back in the NFL no matter what they paid. He hasn’t learned yet on that front and I suspect not on many others, with the exception of working harder not to get caught and paying lip service to public appearances to preach to kids that he is not the same sick and evil twisted human he was just a few months ago and that a couple years in jail cured him of his dog fighting practice that according to his own accounts on the Michael Vick Project spanned many many years including 6 years while he was in the NFL.

You can deceive part of the people part of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. Guess the probability on deceiving blog commentators named Dave is a little higher than the norm.

Point 1
Vick did not just kill, torture, and mutilate dogs (and then go on TV and recall the glory days for BET viewers a couple weeks ago), but even if that were true . . .

Even if dogs were the only ones that suffered at the hands of Michael Vick and the flunkies he funded with fan money, that alone is enough of a reason to stop him from being in the NFL.

Michael Vick financed his criminal enterprise with money he received from his fans. He bought a frat house in virginia and built an elaborate system of mutilation and torture. Go watch the Michael Vick Project episode where he tours his old home, you won’t find a more Vick Friendly video of the place, and it is impossible not to see similarities in what Michael Vick did and what happened to people around the world that have been killed in detention centers and concentration camps.

There is a correlation between people that kill and torture animals and people that kill and torture people. Michael Vick is seriously sick in the head and has no business talking to kids just because he used to be famous and after scrubbing his hands in blood became infamous.

On the second point, – Money

Money was the weapon that Michael Vick used to commit his direct and his indirect crimes. He was not prosecuted on Rico but he could have been. He financed a large criminal dog fighting and gambling ring. That had a widespread impact as his money spread across multiple states that included (fact) but probably not limited to(reality) Georgia, Virginia & North Carolina.

Here in North Carolina, one of Michael Vick’s dog fighting partners who later went on to provide evidence in the case against Michael Vick was murdered.

His murder took place in 2007 during the time when in 2007 Michael Vick was still denying that he had ever fought a dog, knew anything about a dog, did drugs etc.

Michael Vick lied through his teeth through most of 2007 and only came clean when forced to do so because the facts were so damned obvious. After being caught red handed, he finally drafted a confession with the help of his attorney that would later set the legal stage for him to re-enter the NFL. We saw through that farce here then.

There were many possible reasons why Michael Vick did not cooperate with Federal Investigators as he promised the courts he would do as part of his plea bargain.

These are not facts, but speculation
Michael Vick or one of his partners that he financed may have had something to do directly or indrectly with the murder of Bud Melton, the drug dealer who also fought and sold dogs in Vick’s criminal dog fighting ring.

Or someone else that was involved may have killed Bud Melton in order to scare Michael Vick, because there are worse things than prison.

It is possible that one of Bud Meltons other acquaintances may have murdered him too and that may have had nothing to do with Michael Vick, but the reality is that after Michael Vick provided the plea agreement neither Michael Vick nor Federal Investigators helped the police investigating the murder of Bud Melton.

Maybe there was a deal that if Vick pled guilty making the prosecution easier for the government the feds would close the books on things and ignore the collateral damage of a drug dealer in North Carolina.

I don’t know, not too many people know because the people involved are not cooperating.

That’s pretty courageous of Michael Vick don’t you think?

But the greater point about money here is that Michael Vick helped keep his dog fighting ring and the direct participants that lived in his house and worked for him in business. Through the money he lost and the purses that he sponsored in these rings, he also infused fan money via the NFL and corporate sponsors to pay for the dogs, the drugs, the guns etc of the people that came to his rings and his fights. Michael Vick also gave those criminals status via association with a famous NFL quarterback, elevating them in their neighborhoods and social circles so that teens and kids could see that these drug dealers and dog killers and criminals were ‘cool enough to hang with Michael Vick’ so maybe by extension these same dog killers and criminals were cool enough to hang out with and emulate.

Michael Vick reaped a serious amount of damage using his money that he received from the NFL from fans from sponsors who received their money from customers. WE all financed Michael Vick to commit the crimes he commited, to kill and torture the dogs that he killed, to influence kids and teens to do the same.

We did this not knowing that Michael Vick was conning us, lying to us, hiding his sick and twisted past, and his sick, twisted bloody present.

That is why we still include him in this campaign to keep violent felons out of the NFL.

We simply can not afford to put more good money after bad with Michael Vick. He didn’t just do these things once (shame on him) he didn’t just do these things twice (shame on us) he did them over and over and over again for YEARS (shame on all of us that supported the system and continue to support it with him back in it benefiting from it).

I wouldn’t put Bernie Madoff back in a position to manage someone’s money. I would not put Dick Cheney or George Bush back in power where they could do even more damage than Michael Vick did, but using the same flawed principals and ethics, I wouldn’t put a lot of criminals back in a position where they could harm the same victims they hurt before. (wife beaters, child molesters, clergy abusing kids) etc etc etc

There are some crimes where you serve your crimes and you do get to rejoin society, but society is a fool if they allow you to have access to the same triggers that helped incite you to commit those crimes.

That’s why people on parole for example often times have to continue going through rehab, checking in, being home before it is late, getting drug tests, not allowed to buy firearms, etc etc etc.

That is why child molesters are not allowed to be near children after they get out of prison.

True there is no law that would specifically prohibit Michael Vick from playing in the NFL again, but there should be. There should be a law that states that if any person commits a violent crime and is convicted they can no longer play in the NFL, the NBA, MLB etc.

One violent felony conviction and you are out. No exceptions.

Each of the major national sporting leagues should also have this rule in their bylaws and player contracts.

Its not that difficult of a concept.

But hey if you want to think that Michael Vick is the greatest thing since sliced bread now that he made a couple really bad speeches to kids while being filmed for a reality tv show to boost his image and make him more viable for other NFL teams, knock yourself out. Can’t pull the wool away from everybody’s eyes, but simple comments like yours certainly provide an excellent opportunity to help other people see beyond the smoke and mirrors.